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In this fourth novel of Edgar Rice Burroughs's popular Barsoom series, the focus shifts from John Carter, Warlord of Mars, and Dejah Thoris of Helium (protagonists of the first three books in the series) to their son, Carthoris, prince of Helium, and Thuvia, princess of Ptarth. When Thuvia is abducted, blame is cast upon Carthoris. But both are innocent victims of the sini In this fourth novel of Edgar Rice Burroughs's popular Barsoom series, the focus shifts from John Carter, Warlord of Mars, and Dejah Thoris of Helium (protagonists of the first three books in the series) to their son, Carthoris, prince of Helium, and Thuvia, princess of Ptarth. When Thuvia is abducted, blame is cast upon Carthoris. But both are innocent victims of the sinister Prince Astok of Dusar, whose lust for Thuvia brings all of Mars to the brink of war. Carthoris ends up following in his father's footsteps, fighting savage beasts and phantom armies as he rescues Thuvia and saves Barsoom from destruction.


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In this fourth novel of Edgar Rice Burroughs's popular Barsoom series, the focus shifts from John Carter, Warlord of Mars, and Dejah Thoris of Helium (protagonists of the first three books in the series) to their son, Carthoris, prince of Helium, and Thuvia, princess of Ptarth. When Thuvia is abducted, blame is cast upon Carthoris. But both are innocent victims of the sini In this fourth novel of Edgar Rice Burroughs's popular Barsoom series, the focus shifts from John Carter, Warlord of Mars, and Dejah Thoris of Helium (protagonists of the first three books in the series) to their son, Carthoris, prince of Helium, and Thuvia, princess of Ptarth. When Thuvia is abducted, blame is cast upon Carthoris. But both are innocent victims of the sinister Prince Astok of Dusar, whose lust for Thuvia brings all of Mars to the brink of war. Carthoris ends up following in his father's footsteps, fighting savage beasts and phantom armies as he rescues Thuvia and saves Barsoom from destruction.

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  1. 4 out of 5

    Matthew

    The 4th installment of the John Carter/Barsoom series. I continue to be entertained by each and every tale Burroughs tells. I think this one has been my favorite so far! This story branches away from John Carter and Deja Thoris to focus on Carthoris and Thuvia - each played parts in the earlier stories. What was great is that it was not that hard to jump right into. The last two installments took much longer for me to get comfortable with. I love Burroughs' imagination. His creations hop off the p The 4th installment of the John Carter/Barsoom series. I continue to be entertained by each and every tale Burroughs tells. I think this one has been my favorite so far! This story branches away from John Carter and Deja Thoris to focus on Carthoris and Thuvia - each played parts in the earlier stories. What was great is that it was not that hard to jump right into. The last two installments took much longer for me to get comfortable with. I love Burroughs' imagination. His creations hop off the page effortlessly and without feeling forced or silly. Also, the plot points throughout are clearly allegories for life on Earth at the time he wrote it (race, social status, wealth, bravery, ego, etc.) It's like each character is a parable our cautionary tale - this has been a part of every book so far. Very fascinating! If you are a sci fi fan and want to read the classics - this is it! Read this series!

  2. 4 out of 5

    Ada

    Highly formulaic. I begin to see a pattern in these books. Carter's (or now his son, Carthoris) loved one is kidnapped by some cruel person. He pursues, despite being outgunned, outnumbered, and hopelessly behind. Via a series of improbable coincidences, our hero catches up, faces certain death as he dukes it out with the bad guy's army, and survives just to find that the villain has slipped away with his prize. Repeat ad nauseum. Sorry, Mario, Princess Peach is not in this castle. Our hero disc Highly formulaic. I begin to see a pattern in these books. Carter's (or now his son, Carthoris) loved one is kidnapped by some cruel person. He pursues, despite being outgunned, outnumbered, and hopelessly behind. Via a series of improbable coincidences, our hero catches up, faces certain death as he dukes it out with the bad guy's army, and survives just to find that the villain has slipped away with his prize. Repeat ad nauseum. Sorry, Mario, Princess Peach is not in this castle. Our hero discovers yet another new race (a seemingly inexhaustible resource on Barsoom), and by luck manages to join up with the sole malcontent of the entire race. Said malcontent pledges life and limb to help him. More battling ensues; world war is imminent. Hero's heroic acts averts said war. Accolades all round, and the hero gets his girl. They're all the same, so far, but I'm quite determined to keep reading the series until I reach the end, in hopes Burroughs will change it up a bit. But if we discover one more race- perhaps this one a bold purple or blue, just for variety- I think I'll throw in the towel. How on earth could Barsoom be so completely unexplored by its own inhabitants that Carter and Carthoris can't hardly go for a stroll without discovering entire lost civilizations? Wait, don't tell me- plot contrivances. :P

  3. 4 out of 5

    Joseph

    I can't put my finger on the reason for it, but this isn't my favorite Barsoom book. Having said which, it's still a very strong entry in the series. This is the first book written in third person, so you actually get multiple points of view. It's also the first book not to feature John Carter as a protagonist (he has a very brief walk-on in the beginning of the book). The plot is about what you'd expect: Steel-thewed, square-jawed warrior is smitten with beautiful princess, but many complicatio I can't put my finger on the reason for it, but this isn't my favorite Barsoom book. Having said which, it's still a very strong entry in the series. This is the first book written in third person, so you actually get multiple points of view. It's also the first book not to feature John Carter as a protagonist (he has a very brief walk-on in the beginning of the book). The plot is about what you'd expect: Steel-thewed, square-jawed warrior is smitten with beautiful princess, but many complications ensue to keep them apart. More hideous monsters (although none, I think, that we haven't seen before) and lost cities. This is also the first book to be written from the point of view of native Martians, and to give a glimpse of their day-to-day life when they're not out slaying white apes and fending off green men. I'd probably have gone closer to a 4.5 did GR allow partial ratings.

  4. 5 out of 5

    J.G. Keely

    Burroughs is at his best when he combines the impetus of pulp adventures with the unselfconsciously far flung. When he gets too tied down to an idea or progression, it tends to hinder his imagination somewhat. The alien setting of the Mars books then proves a great boon to Burroughs, since it is unfettered by much need for suspension of disbelief. The series has its highs, but it also has lows, like this book. In it, he explores many of the same things he has in the previous books, casting John Ca Burroughs is at his best when he combines the impetus of pulp adventures with the unselfconsciously far flung. When he gets too tied down to an idea or progression, it tends to hinder his imagination somewhat. The alien setting of the Mars books then proves a great boon to Burroughs, since it is unfettered by much need for suspension of disbelief. The series has its highs, but it also has lows, like this book. In it, he explores many of the same things he has in the previous books, casting John Carter's son in his father's image, and giving him the same class of adventure. He fights an endless succession of monsters and soldiers, rescuing a standoffish princess, navigating war and politics, facing a sex-starved sadist, befriending a noble local warrior, and uncovering an ancient, mysterious culture. Unfortunately, the story doesn't have quite the same punch the second time through, even if there is some enjoyable variance in the details. Carter had more character than his son, and Burroughs once again gets in the same trouble he did in Tarzan: trying to explain the main character's unusual powers. John Carter was a mighty warrior on Mars because its lower gravity gave him the ability to leap further, hit harder, and carry more. Why his son has the same powers, Burroughs seems less sure, suggesting that Earthlings are merely mightier, despite the fact that all the creatures on Mars are huge and massively muscled. Just as in Tarzan, his notion that 'blood will out' is poorly contrived, even by the scientific notions of the time. This book is a romp, but lacks the verve of the first book and the bizarre pseudospiritual metaphysics of the second.

  5. 4 out of 5

    James

    Eventually every good series needs to be put to bed. Drawn to a close. Wound up. Killed. In spite of that Burroughs is soldiering on with his stories from Barsoom. The first three books focussed on John Carter and his beloved Dejah Thoris as she repeatedly got into scrapes and he repeatedly had to rescue her. The fourth book completely changes everything and instead focusses on their son, Carthoris, and the woman he has fallen for: the titular Thuvia of Ptarth. This time it's Thuvia's opportunit Eventually every good series needs to be put to bed. Drawn to a close. Wound up. Killed. In spite of that Burroughs is soldiering on with his stories from Barsoom. The first three books focussed on John Carter and his beloved Dejah Thoris as she repeatedly got into scrapes and he repeatedly had to rescue her. The fourth book completely changes everything and instead focusses on their son, Carthoris, and the woman he has fallen for: the titular Thuvia of Ptarth. This time it's Thuvia's opportunity to get kidnapped and Carthoris's opportunity to run around Mars to rescue her (and clear his name as the assumed kidnapper). Only the names have been changed to make it seem like a brand new book. It does feel very derivative of the previous three novels. Thuvia is an unobtainable beauty, promised to somebody else. She is kidnapped by a jealous Jeddak and taken to a new area of Mars that we've never been to before. Our hero, Carthoris, is both blamed and also the only one actually capable of finding and rescuing her. The odds are as insane as ever as he goes up against two full clans of barsoomians and a whole new race. Oh yes, of course there's a new race. Every book has to introduce at least one new race of barsoomians to us. This time an even older race who believe they are the only surviving barsoomians. They have the power to create mental projections of their own kind and over time these are able to take on physical form. Eventually, of course, no matter how insurmountable the odds they will be beaten; no matter how convincing the charges they will be proven false; and no matter how unobtainable the damsel, she will be unable to resist the charms of the son of John Carter. And no matter how contrived and repeatable the story, it does still have something of a "boy's own adventure" charm to it.

  6. 4 out of 5

    Charles Stoltz

    I agree with many people that this book is formulaic as are most of Burroughs books. The problem is most people look at this book as well as the rest of the John Carter series and compare it to modern fantasy which is a mistake. People please remember that most of Burroughs works are from the early twentieth century this book was published in 1920 which was 93 years ago. It was a different time. Also these stories started out as serials in pulp magazines they were actioney and fast paced. I enjo I agree with many people that this book is formulaic as are most of Burroughs books. The problem is most people look at this book as well as the rest of the John Carter series and compare it to modern fantasy which is a mistake. People please remember that most of Burroughs works are from the early twentieth century this book was published in 1920 which was 93 years ago. It was a different time. Also these stories started out as serials in pulp magazines they were actioney and fast paced. I enjoy the novelty and simplicity of these types of books from time to time. They tell a very simple and direct story. I enjoyed this one because it's about the son assuming his role in life and defining himself. So before being too critical of Burroughs works please consider that these stories were written at a period where the scifi genre was just being developed and this book is in fact pulp fiction before making any judgements about it.

  7. 5 out of 5

    Dave

    “Thuvia, Maid of Mars” by Edgar Rice Burroughs is the fourth book in the Barsoom series, and it is quite a bit different than the previous books. The first three books focused on John Carter, and his love of Dejah Thoris, but they are barely mentioned in this book. Instead, the focus switches to focus on John Carter’s son, Cathoris, prince of Helium, and the title character Thuvia, princess of Ptarth, both of which were introduced in the second book of the series “The Gods of Mars”, but were fai “Thuvia, Maid of Mars” by Edgar Rice Burroughs is the fourth book in the Barsoom series, and it is quite a bit different than the previous books. The first three books focused on John Carter, and his love of Dejah Thoris, but they are barely mentioned in this book. Instead, the focus switches to focus on John Carter’s son, Cathoris, prince of Helium, and the title character Thuvia, princess of Ptarth, both of which were introduced in the second book of the series “The Gods of Mars”, but were fairly minor characters in both that and the third book of the series. This book was originally published in three parts in “All-Story Weekly” on April 8, 15, and 22 of 1916. It was later published in book form in October of 1920. Most of the book deals with things with which the readers of the series are already familiar, such as the different kingdoms of Red Martians, and the warlike Green Martians, but there is one very interesting new development and that is in the ancient city of Lothar, and in particular the phantom bowmen who defend that city. The entire Lothar sequence is certainly the highlight of the book, with the unusual Jav, who is the first Lotharian they meet, and Tario, Jeddak of Lothar. Also, the character Kar Komak who is one of the phantom bowmen is a good addition to the cast of characters. The story is rather simple. Cathoris is in love with Thuvia, as is Astok, Prince of Dusar, but Thuvia herself is already promised to Kulan Tith, the Jeddak of Kaol. Who Thuvia favors is kept somewhat secret, though the reader can pretty much guess. Astok is determined to have her, and so he kidnaps her and frames Cathoris in the process, hoping to start a war and prevent the truth from being learned. Cathoris falls into their trap, and he and Thuvia disappear from the known world. Cathoris does his best to protect Thuvia as she gets passed from captor to captor, while the circumstances of what is going on in their kingdoms is unknown to them. This book falls short of the first books of the series for a number of reasons. Many of the devices used here were used before. One would think that so many plots and deceptions had taken place in the past, that it would not automatically work so easily in making people believe that Cathoris was a kidnapper. The fact is, though, that these hokey devices worked in the earlier books, because Burroughs did a much better job of keeping the action going and telling a complete story. This book is much shorter than any of the prior three, and the ending feels like it is cut at least a chapter short as only some of the issues raised during the story end up being resolved. One never really gets to know Kulan Tith, and so his actions in the end feel empty of significance, a mistake which Burroughs did not make in the earlier books. For those who were content with the first three books, there isn’t enough here to justify coming back to it, but for those who want more, it does add something to the series. I am only going to rate this one two stars, because I feel it is significantly weaker than its predecessors, but for those who are big fans of the series, you probably will still get something out of it.

  8. 5 out of 5

    Ron

    Burroughs must have written this one to make a few bucks (or because his contract required it). Little imagination, improbable plot and more-than-usual coincidences (both good and bad) to make it work. But at least it was short. Normally, I want a book to be as long as possible; not this time. Like father, like son: Carthoris is as clueless as his father. Why does everyone always choose the new slave (in almost all cases a spy or one of the Carters) to accompany them on a critical, secret mission? Burroughs must have written this one to make a few bucks (or because his contract required it). Little imagination, improbable plot and more-than-usual coincidences (both good and bad) to make it work. But at least it was short. Normally, I want a book to be as long as possible; not this time. Like father, like son: Carthoris is as clueless as his father. Why does everyone always choose the new slave (in almost all cases a spy or one of the Carters) to accompany them on a critical, secret mission? ;-) How can so much of Barsoom (Mars) be "unexplored" when their aviation was better than earth's at that time? Not the "huge guns" of the green men: too many miles of wasteland. (And where how ddi the primitive green men get all this fancy hardware?) Poor naming: the heroine is Thuvia and an airship used by the bad guys is Thuria. Don't waste your time.

  9. 5 out of 5

    Kyle Tresnan

    I was talking to my dad about Edgar Rice Burroughs the other day. My dad discovered Burroughs through comic book adaptations of A Princess of Mars and Tarzan, and then he moved on to the novels. He said that Burroughs is "One of the best authors who gets absolutely no respect." Here's what I think: Edgar Rice Burroughs may not have written anything salient on, say, the American Dream or man's inhumanity to man, but dammit, I don't care. I've never felt unsatisfied after a Burroughs novel. Thuvia I was talking to my dad about Edgar Rice Burroughs the other day. My dad discovered Burroughs through comic book adaptations of A Princess of Mars and Tarzan, and then he moved on to the novels. He said that Burroughs is "One of the best authors who gets absolutely no respect." Here's what I think: Edgar Rice Burroughs may not have written anything salient on, say, the American Dream or man's inhumanity to man, but dammit, I don't care. I've never felt unsatisfied after a Burroughs novel. Thuvia isn't quite as good as the first three books in the series. It starts kind of slow, but once it picks up, you'll find all of the good ol' stuff you expect in your Barsoomian stories. I missed John Carter a little bit (he shows up, but not for very long), but Carthoris is a competent protagonist that does John proud. But for real, more people should read these books. They're free on the internet (legally!). If you like stories about heroes, science-fiction, and romance (this falls under the "still a better love story than Twilight" category) that aren't afraid to be a little cheesy (they were pulp-fiction stories, after all), give Burroughs a try. Start with A Princess of Mars.

  10. 4 out of 5

    Noel Coughlan

    After the pummeling my nerves received from John Carter’s ego in Warlord of Mars, I approached this book with trepidation. Fortunately, I enjoyed it a lot more than the previous installment. Firstly, the focus isn’t on John Carter, but on the eponymous Thuvia of Ptarth and John Carter’s son, Carthoris. They come across as more rounded, likeable individuals. The villainous Drusar, learning from the mistakes of others, try something more subtle than kidnapping Dejah Thoris and inviting John Carter After the pummeling my nerves received from John Carter’s ego in Warlord of Mars, I approached this book with trepidation. Fortunately, I enjoyed it a lot more than the previous installment. Firstly, the focus isn’t on John Carter, but on the eponymous Thuvia of Ptarth and John Carter’s son, Carthoris. They come across as more rounded, likeable individuals. The villainous Drusar, learning from the mistakes of others, try something more subtle than kidnapping Dejah Thoris and inviting John Carter to slaughter them. Thuvia, destined to be married to one of her father’s allies, is kidnapped and, in trying to help find her, Carthoris becomes the number one suspect for her disappearance. Of course, yet again, there’s another region that nobody ever leaves: the ghostly city of Lothar. The inhabitants are an archetype I’ve come across in later novels, and their intriguing nature is never fully resolved. While there’s a big war brewing, the focus is firmly focused on Thuvia and Carthoris. As soon as their story comes to a close, the novel comes to an abrupt stop. Even if you found A Princess of Mars a bit off-putting, you might still enjoy this novel.

  11. 4 out of 5

    Curtiss

    In this book our focus shifts from john Carter to his son Carthoris and his quest to rescue the beauteous Barsoomian princess, Thuvia. These stories are not high art, or even good sci-fi/fantasy; but they are terrific yarns with exotic Barsoomian locales, fantastic beasts, flamboyant princesses, dastardly villains, and cliff-hanging adventures in which the hero gets the girl and the bad guy meets his (or her) just deserts. I've read and re-read these stories over the years, and even recorded them In this book our focus shifts from john Carter to his son Carthoris and his quest to rescue the beauteous Barsoomian princess, Thuvia. These stories are not high art, or even good sci-fi/fantasy; but they are terrific yarns with exotic Barsoomian locales, fantastic beasts, flamboyant princesses, dastardly villains, and cliff-hanging adventures in which the hero gets the girl and the bad guy meets his (or her) just deserts. I've read and re-read these stories over the years, and even recorded them onto DVD for the local radio station for blind and reading-impaired listeners.

  12. 5 out of 5

    John

    The epitome of high adventure. The best I've ready by Burroughs so far. An incredible arrangement of the ways in which people might react to the passions of the love within them.

  13. 4 out of 5

    Rena

    Sometimes, as someone who enjoys writing, I find it entertaining to go back and read things I wrote years ago. On one hand, it’s completely embarrassing to see my first attempts at being a novelist, but, at the same time, it’s encouraging. I can see how I’ve developed as a writer. Reading the Barsoom series kind of feels the same way. Edgar Rice Burroughs plunged into the world of writing pulp fiction (“rot” as he called it) because he saw that people actually got paid to write such things. Admitt Sometimes, as someone who enjoys writing, I find it entertaining to go back and read things I wrote years ago. On one hand, it’s completely embarrassing to see my first attempts at being a novelist, but, at the same time, it’s encouraging. I can see how I’ve developed as a writer. Reading the Barsoom series kind of feels the same way. Edgar Rice Burroughs plunged into the world of writing pulp fiction (“rot” as he called it) because he saw that people actually got paid to write such things. Admitting to absolutely no experience as a writer, he set out to do the same and accomplished it with the same wild success that has come to more modern writers of questionable ability (Twilight...50 Shades…). Literature this is not. But, a damned fine yarn it certainly is. It’s a fast-paced set of stories that’s all just plain good fun. The reader doesn’t need to think, doesn’t need to put forth any effort, and it all makes for a very good break for a burnt-out brain in today’s multitasking, non-stop society. I enjoy this series. The first three stories are told expressly from John Carter’s perspective (first person, the general default to new writers). Thuvia, Maid of Mars, is ERB’s first foray in his Barsoom novels to attempt a more omniscient third-person that is even bold and daring enough to trade off and put us in the minds of both protagonists in turn, Carthoris and Thuvia. Instead of watching our intrepid hero traipse across the vastly unknown expanse of Mars to find his captured love where all we know of Dejah Thoris is what John decides to tell us, we actually get to see both sides of the line this time. It threw me off, at first, but I jumped into reading this book immediately after finishing The Warlord of Mars. However, I appreciated that the shift to third-person slowed down the narrative enough that a few more details could be thrown in to flesh out the scenery (something that develops even further in The Chessmen of Mars...ERB’s paragraphs grow steadily larger). It still has an undeniably amateur quality...but I’m reading pulp fiction, not War and Peace. I glance over the sentences that ring of nonsense and move on. I won’t hash over any more of the quality, the formula plot, the logic gaps, or dropped plot threads. There are plenty of other reviews here that will spout off about that ad nauseam. I’ve also been reading back through these stories to see them through the eyes of an adult rather than a child with an overactive imagination. The hero still rescues his princess and “gets the girl” as it were, but something actually managed to impress me with Thuvia, Maid of Mars. Considering that this story was in the works between 1912 and 1916, Thuvia is actually given the opportunity to be more than the damsel in distress. By comparison of all we’re allowed to see of Dejah Thoris, Thuvia is a heroine in her own right thanks to her mysterious ability to control banths and her strength of will. No, she’s not what modern women want to see by way of a heroine. She’s not out there in armor, sword blazing, fighting her own way out of the horde of green men that captured her (though Gods of Mars hinted that she’s quite capable). The readers of ERB’s world, where women in the US still didn’t even have the right to vote, would have balked at the notion. Pulps, like comics, were written with a male audience in mind, and this was still before the World Wars where women showed how much of a bastion they could be to society. But for all this, there are few things in this story more satisfying than the first scene outside of Lothar. The scavenging banths have turned their attentions upon Carthoris and Thuvia. Carthoris moves to protect her, but then: “You may return your sword,” [Thuvia] said. “I told you that the banths would not harm us. Look!” and as she spoke she stepped quickly toward the nearest animal. Carthoris would have leaped after her to protect her, but with a gesture she motioned him back. He heard her calling to the banths in a low, singsong voice that was half purr. Instantly the great heads went up and all the wicked eyes were riveted upon the figure of the girl. Then, stealthily, they commenced moving toward her. She stopped now and was standing waiting them. One, closer to her than the others, hesitated. She spoke to him imperiously, as a master might speak to a refractory hound. The great carnivore let its head droop, and with tail between its legs came slinking to the girl’s feet, and after it came the others until she was entirely surrounded by the savage maneaters. Between that and the similar event John Carter witnessed in Gods of Mars, Thuvia has been cemented as my favorite character in the series. Warlord of Mars has Carter telling us that the women of Barsoom do not fight as men fight, though it is not for a lack of knowing how. If ERB had let Thuvia keep her small pack of banths, the remaining chapters of Maid of Mars could have gone quite differently...but that would have made Carthoris less of the hero that we’re meant to picture him as. Instead, Thuvia is separated from her most powerful weapon, captured, imprisoned, and fought over by five different men. And at least six armies/navies. I still wasn’t entirely disappointed by ERB falling back into his usual trope (which, I have to admit, is not as horrible as the more dangerous Women in Refrigerators). Thuvia was captured by the original Lustful Villain of the story and imprisoned in the royal palace. But, here, we got to see Thuvia facing down the spineless prince--not for the first time--even though death was the only other apparent option. What we see of Thuvia is what we should have seen of Dejah Thoris in the first three books when we were too busy following John Carter around because of that meddling first-person perspective. As expected, however, Carthoris rescues Thuvia from certain death (and I say “certain” only because Astok was a spineless nit and made sure she was outnumbered and out-muscled). The trope ends there, though. Carthoris isn’t the one to kill his own nemesis, which was refreshing. Kar Komak, a new supporting character from the newly introduced Lotharians, gets the glory kills usually reserved for the primary hero, and Thuvia, in her own feminine way, frees Carthoris from a prison of his own. It’s not the most satisfying twist, but I found it amusing. In all, the book definitely has its flaws, not the least of which being its abrupt ending. However, I definitely appreciated what was there.

  14. 4 out of 5

    Rebecca

    I think Thuvia is my favorite character so far in this series.

  15. 5 out of 5

    Sandy

    "Thuvia, Maid of Mars" is the 4th of 11 John Carter novels from the pen of Edgar Rice Burroughs. It first appeared in April 1916, as a three-part serial in the magazine "All Story Weekly." This is the first Carter novel that does not feature John Carter himself as the central character; he only makes a brief cameo appearance early on. Instead, the action mantle is taken up by Carthoris, Carter's son, but fortunately, Carter Junior turns out to be just as good a swashbuckler as the old man. In th "Thuvia, Maid of Mars" is the 4th of 11 John Carter novels from the pen of Edgar Rice Burroughs. It first appeared in April 1916, as a three-part serial in the magazine "All Story Weekly." This is the first Carter novel that does not feature John Carter himself as the central character; he only makes a brief cameo appearance early on. Instead, the action mantle is taken up by Carthoris, Carter's son, but fortunately, Carter Junior turns out to be just as good a swashbuckler as the old man. In this installment, Princess Thuvia of Ptarth has been kidnapped by the spineless Prince Astok of Dusar, which abduction almost causes a world war on Barsoom (Mars). Young Carthoris, in his quest to free his beloved princess, runs across deserted cities, a forgotten kingdom, banths (10-legged Barsoomian lions), ethereal warriors, mucho swordplay, giant white apes, and on and on. As is usual for these books, the amount of action that Burroughs packs into a small compass is quite surprising. Whereas previous Carter books seem to read more like fantasy/fairy tales than science fiction, this installment veers even more to the fantastic, mainly in the use of those phantom warriors just mentioned. These bowmen are called up from the minds of the remaining members of the lost city of Lothar, and have no "real" concrete existence. However, their arrows can still kill. In this book we also get, for the first time, a nice, detailed look at life in Helium; what the people do, how they live and the like. We also receive a biological explanation of how Carthoris, who was 10 years old but a seeming adult in the previous books, got to be that way. The worldwide peace that apparently prevails at the end of book 3, "The Warlord of Mars," is shown in this volume to be not as widespread as was inferred, which makes for some nice tense situations. So this is a good, fast-moving, detailed entry in the series. There are some minor problems of inconsistency and fuzzy writing, however, although not as prevalent as in previous entries. For example, in one scene, Carthoris is said to be fighting a force of a dozen Dusarians; three of these are killed, and so three are left. Huh? Carthoris seems to know exactly where to find water in the dead city of Aaanthor, despite the fact that he has never been there before. Wha? Vas Kor, one of Carthoris' chief enemies, fails to recognize him merely because Carthoris is dirty, tired and covered with blood; this is just a bit hard to swallow. Perhaps worst of all, the book ends extremely abruptly, just as all of Barsoom is about to be plunged into that world war. We never learn the fate of several of the main villains, nor do we see the end of hostilities as the realization of the true facts becomes known. This is a short book, and would not have suffered by the addition of such scenes to make it more satisfying. Still, this is a fun entry in the John Carter series, one that all lovers of fast-moving fantasy should enjoy.

  16. 4 out of 5

    Samuel Valentino

    This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. This book was difficult to find - the entire library system didn't have it, nor did the used bookstores. It made me feel that perhaps it was not going to be a good one in the series, if it had dropped off the radar so completely. However, once I did manage to get a copy, it proved to be a fantastic book. The pace is slower than the previous three - which is not to say that it is slow, or that it's a bad thing. The second and third books were almost literally non-stop action, so it was nice to sl This book was difficult to find - the entire library system didn't have it, nor did the used bookstores. It made me feel that perhaps it was not going to be a good one in the series, if it had dropped off the radar so completely. However, once I did manage to get a copy, it proved to be a fantastic book. The pace is slower than the previous three - which is not to say that it is slow, or that it's a bad thing. The second and third books were almost literally non-stop action, so it was nice to slow down and hear a little bit more about life on Barsoom. There's even a section that describes traffic patterns in city limits for their flying vehicles! There is also more description of the palaces and etiquette of Martian nobility, setting a mood other than pure momentum. The best thing about the book is the titular hero - Thuvia is one of my favorite characters in the series so far. A woman who can call banths around her to do her bidding, and take up air gunning Tharks, is clearly a character to be reckoned with. The realm of Lothar is also well imagined (as, I suppose, are most of it's inhabitants, but see the book for that). It had almost a dreamlike quality, in that some things seemed patently surreal (to the participants) but nevertheless took place. The only downside to the book - the reason why I only gave it four stars instead of five - was to very abrupt ending. The story dropped off so quickly, leaving large subplots dangling, that I thought my copy was defective. I even looked up other editions to make sure they all ended at the same chapter! Not that the ending is unsatisfying, it would just have been nice to see how a literal world war would have wrapped up. Despite the ending, however, it was a very enjoyable book, one that I would recommend to anyone interested in the series.

  17. 4 out of 5

    John

    Differs from earlier Barsoom books in two respects: 1) It stars John Carter's son, and J.C. himself is reduced to a mere cameo. 2) It's written in third- rather than first-person. The first of these differences makes virtually no impact on the story, since there is almost no difference between John Carter and his son, apart from their names. In fact, I think the primary reason Burroughs switched characters was so he could recycle plot points from the previous books without being too obvious about Differs from earlier Barsoom books in two respects: 1) It stars John Carter's son, and J.C. himself is reduced to a mere cameo. 2) It's written in third- rather than first-person. The first of these differences makes virtually no impact on the story, since there is almost no difference between John Carter and his son, apart from their names. In fact, I think the primary reason Burroughs switched characters was so he could recycle plot points from the previous books without being too obvious about it. But I liked the switch to third-person narrative, because it stopped making you feel like the main character was bragging about himself all the time. Of course, John Carter never intended to boast; but rather to simply inform you of the cold, hard fact of his incredible awesomeness. One other interesting thing about this book is that it's the first Burroughs novel I've read that doesn't get worse as it progresses. I actually found THUVIA, MAID OF MARS to be most intriguing during the middle section, when readers are introduced to the competing factions of "realists" and "etherealists." For a Barsoom novel, that's as deep as you're likely to get.

  18. 5 out of 5

    James Mourgos

    Thuvia Maid of Mars is an interesting if old-fashioned story. She’s a bit prissy as the princess of Ptarth and is betrothed to a character Tith, whom we do not meet until the end of the story. The story is mostly about a couple of men who have the hots for her and the length they go through to get her, even risking interplanetary war for her hand. As with a lot of Mars books, we have interesting subplots – a lost city of Lothar that has men who can imagine so strongly that others can see their t Thuvia Maid of Mars is an interesting if old-fashioned story. She’s a bit prissy as the princess of Ptarth and is betrothed to a character Tith, whom we do not meet until the end of the story. The story is mostly about a couple of men who have the hots for her and the length they go through to get her, even risking interplanetary war for her hand. As with a lot of Mars books, we have interesting subplots – a lost city of Lothar that has men who can imagine so strongly that others can see their thoughts come to life. They usually disappear except for one guy…. but I digress. Burroughs really gets more into the animal life on Mars – the lion-like banth the most prominent. Overall, and enjoyable story for John Carter fans, but without John Carter. Kindle edition was clear, no massive misspellings or errors as I’ve seen in other editions.

  19. 5 out of 5

    Fred

    There's something missing from this series without John Carter. I know that Carthoris is his son and all of that but it just wasn't the same for me. Part of the mystique about this series is/was John Carter being an outsider, an Earthman on Mars. Without that it just isn't the same for me. The villains in this one fell a little flat, and Carthoris didn't have enough of a background or unique personality I think to set him apart from many of the other Martians and characters of the book. Not Burro There's something missing from this series without John Carter. I know that Carthoris is his son and all of that but it just wasn't the same for me. Part of the mystique about this series is/was John Carter being an outsider, an Earthman on Mars. Without that it just isn't the same for me. The villains in this one fell a little flat, and Carthoris didn't have enough of a background or unique personality I think to set him apart from many of the other Martians and characters of the book. Not Burroughs' best book by far. I can only hope that the series gets back on track and John Carter makes a reappearance. I listened to this as a free audiobook from librevox.org on my Android phone.

  20. 4 out of 5

    Paul DiBara

    While I'm not a big fan of gratuitous violence, warrior cultures are very much part of human history to modern times. I enjoyed the author's imaginative forays in this story. The discovery of an ancient and unknown city that used mind control to battle its enemies was especially fun.

  21. 5 out of 5

    Michael

    Another excellent addition to the Barroom series. I read this book in high school, so it was all new to me reading it again after 40+ years. Great pace on the story telling. The characters are not very believable, but who cares? It's ERB fantasy. Loved it!

  22. 4 out of 5

    Jason Vanhee

    Better than book 3, this slightly tangled narrative brings in even wackier Barsoomians with mighty mental powers who are still petty asses just like everyone else on Mars. Thuvia should have been more badass; recognizing the times, I get why she wasn't, but there are constant references throughout the books to Barsoomian women taking up weapons when needed and being in some ways better with them, but here in this book, when it would have been great, Thuvia doesn't do that. She's more the object Better than book 3, this slightly tangled narrative brings in even wackier Barsoomians with mighty mental powers who are still petty asses just like everyone else on Mars. Thuvia should have been more badass; recognizing the times, I get why she wasn't, but there are constant references throughout the books to Barsoomian women taking up weapons when needed and being in some ways better with them, but here in this book, when it would have been great, Thuvia doesn't do that. She's more the object of the story than the subject (not surprisingly, again given the time) but her handy ability to make banths do her bidding at least means she plays a part now and again. Carthoris is like boring John Carter. Let us never have him feature as protagonist again, okay?

  23. 4 out of 5

    James Rauch

    You got to hand it to old Edgar Rice Burroughs, he does one action packed adventure story really really well and some how manages to disguise it well enough to squeeze out several books. This is the case with Thuvia, Maid of Mars. The Edgar Rice Burrough's Barsoom formula: Take A Princess of Mars, change the names of the characters, and alter a few points and you get a whole new novel with little effort or originality. Sure, on the one hand, the new novel is strikingly similar to the original, e You got to hand it to old Edgar Rice Burroughs, he does one action packed adventure story really really well and some how manages to disguise it well enough to squeeze out several books. This is the case with Thuvia, Maid of Mars. The Edgar Rice Burrough's Barsoom formula: Take A Princess of Mars, change the names of the characters, and alter a few points and you get a whole new novel with little effort or originality. Sure, on the one hand, the new novel is strikingly similar to the original, even slavishly at times, because its follows the same action filled plot of the first book now perfected into a formula; but on the other hand, this book has enough new details to keep the reader's interest so they don't feel gyped when they finally realise that you've re-written the same book over and over again until it spans a whole series.

  24. 5 out of 5

    Michael Drakich

    This is the fourth book in the Mars series by Edgar Rice Burroughs, but the first in where John Carter is not the hero. Instead, it focuses on his son, Carthoris. My first reaction was a mild disappointment with the change. After the first three novels, my emoting with John Carter was deep and I wasn't at first ready for the transition but after a few chapters, I had settled in. The plot to kidnap Thuvia seemed overly complicated at first as I did not comprehend the intentions of the captors on t This is the fourth book in the Mars series by Edgar Rice Burroughs, but the first in where John Carter is not the hero. Instead, it focuses on his son, Carthoris. My first reaction was a mild disappointment with the change. After the first three novels, my emoting with John Carter was deep and I wasn't at first ready for the transition but after a few chapters, I had settled in. The plot to kidnap Thuvia seemed overly complicated at first as I did not comprehend the intentions of the captors on their initial plan. The whole taking her to a long-abandoned city in the south of Mars made no sense. It became obvious that the author was not worried about reason, only wanting to establish a new setting and characters not previously discovered in the previous novels. The whole 'mentally projected archers' thing also didn't work for me. Nevertheless, like the first three novels, there is plenty of heroics, lots of battles, and a number of challenges, both mental and physical, for the hero, all things I had come to expect so all enjoyable. The final result, 4 stars. The previously mentioned issues being too much to overlook to go 5.

  25. 4 out of 5

    Jakk Makk

    Not horrible, but I lost the thread listening to the audiobook. I'll enjoy it more in print.

  26. 4 out of 5

    Kéké

    Same pitch than the first three books, interesting, but not thrilling

  27. 4 out of 5

    Tiffany Martin

    While I have enjoyed all the books up to this one, I have to admit disappointment in this 4th book. In a word, boring, and I hope the next one redeems forcing myself through this one.

  28. 5 out of 5

    Christine

    Eventually you realize that Burroughs is writing the same plot over and over. That's why I put long spaces between these books.

  29. 4 out of 5

    Scott Moore

    A little bit of a change up as this does not actually pertain to John Carter at all, but actually is a story of his son. Burroughs has a way of writing that really pats the main character on the back and almost makes him the luckiest and most skilled person on the planet. The villains do not stand a chance against the Carter's and should probably just stop trying by now. Even with the pompous characters and the over inflated egos, I still find myself reading these books in moments of lull. Maybe A little bit of a change up as this does not actually pertain to John Carter at all, but actually is a story of his son. Burroughs has a way of writing that really pats the main character on the back and almost makes him the luckiest and most skilled person on the planet. The villains do not stand a chance against the Carter's and should probably just stop trying by now. Even with the pompous characters and the over inflated egos, I still find myself reading these books in moments of lull. Maybe it is because they are all free from the online library sources, or maybe it is because I secretly like over inflated egos? Whatever it is, this is the fourth John Carter book I have read, but sadly this is my least favorite of them all. Possibly because John Carter is missing throughout the book? But his son is pretty much the same person right? I think it was more so because it was the love story again, the falling in love of the young Carter and his Princess, we played that game in the first book. I think too, that maybe, just maybe, the fact that people where now creating armies with their minds may have gotten me. It seemed to come from left field and just be a by the way this kind of thing can happen on Mars as well. Plus of course they have to be evil, all of them have to be mindlessly estranged. Plus I realize this is from early 1900's and that makes it understandable how it came to be, but it still is appalling to think, that just as far back as a hundred years ago slaves were still thought of as a viable subject and women were not equal even in the slightest. Here in Burroughs book we have Thuvia thinking clearly many times that she belongs to a man and must submit to him fully. Also, that she must shy into the man's protection from everything. It seems as if Mr. Young Carter will have himself another slave, just so happens this one is the woman he purportedly loves. All in all, I read the book, I didn't throw it away in disgust or boredom, and that means it was decent enough. Nothing amazing, nothing worth reading twice, but I am sure I will someday read the fifth installment of this series, if nothing else because why not?

  30. 5 out of 5

    Erik Graff

    Grandmother Lajla had a cottage on a heavily wooded hill overlooking Lake Michigan which her mother and grandmother had had built during the great war in consort with other Chicagoans of Norwegian descent who had purchased land all about. Every year until high school I spent all summer there with my mother and, while he existed, little brother. Father would come up on weekends. Lajla would usually spend one month of the summer with us. The cabin was pretty rustic: no heat except from a fireplace, Grandmother Lajla had a cottage on a heavily wooded hill overlooking Lake Michigan which her mother and grandmother had had built during the great war in consort with other Chicagoans of Norwegian descent who had purchased land all about. Every year until high school I spent all summer there with my mother and, while he existed, little brother. Father would come up on weekends. Lajla would usually spend one month of the summer with us. The cabin was pretty rustic: no heat except from a fireplace, no insulation, no running water, no telephone, no television, no phonograph or tape player. There was electricity--at least when there wasn't a storm, strong wind or something else to perturb the powerlines snaked through the forest canopy. Then, of course, we'd switch to the oil lamps of grandmother's youth. At night there wasn't much to do but play cards, knit and read. By age ten I'd given up the knitting and committed myself to the books, most of which I'd pick up from the carousel at Knack's Drugstore in the nearest town, Bridgman. It would be years before they got a library. Paperbacks were only 35 to 75 cents. Ace even published "doubles"--two science fiction or fantasy novels inside one cover. Throughout early adolescence Ace was pumping out the novels of Edgar Rice Burroughs in cheap paperback editions graced by lurid covers, often of scantily clad ladies chased by hideous monsters. Thuvia, Maid of Mars had a particularly eye-catching drawing--a sure buy. I devoured those things, sometimes up to two whole novels a day. This particular night, the night of Thuvia, grandmother was sitting to my right alongside the wicker coffee table in her matching wicker rocker, knitting. Sharing her light, I was spread out on the couch alongside the wall. Noting my avidity, she interrupted to ask what I was reading with such interest. I handed the book over. She looked at it, likely recognizing Burrough's name from the Tarzan books and movies at least, raised her painted eyebrow at the cover drawing, opened it and scanned a page. "You like this?" she asked.

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